RakoSell / Articles

Podia vs Patreon: Is Podia a Better Alternative?

Author
Angel

Posted at:06/18/2021

#SEO  

Previously, in order to raise sufficient funds for your project or business, the only way is to go about pitching your product to potential investors, venture capitalists, or supporters.

The emergence of crowdfunding portals has altered the whole situation. These online platforms allow you to pitch your product or concept to the entire internet and bring your idea into reality. Patreon and Podia are striking examples in this arena.

In this article, I would like to compare the two platforms in the following angles:

  • Raising Funds: A Big Funding Pot vs. Recurring Donations
  • Revenue sharing: 5-12% Cut off vs Flat Monthly Fee
  • Payment Schedule and Methods: Regular Monthly Payout vs Customised Payout Schedule
  • Highlighted Tools and Features: All-rounded Tools vs Simple Website
  • Freedom of Content Delivery: Generally Liberal vs Nearly Zero Limit
  Patreon Podia
Raising fund Monthly subscription-based Either subscription or one-off transaction
Revenue sharing 5-12% Cut off on overall donations

Flat Monthly Fee

  • $79/month to offer memberships
  • $39/month to sell digital content without memberships
Payment schedule and methods
  • Regular monthly payout
  • 3 payment methods: Stripe, Paypal, Payonner

 

  • One-time payment or monthly payment plans
  • Stripe
Highlighted tools and features
  • Patreon app
  • Creator dashboard (includes analytics)
  • Patreon Lens
  • Public and gated posts, community feed, and messaging
  • Reward fulfillment tracking
  • Platform to sell online courses
  • Email marketing with dashboard
  • Tools to set up a simple website
  • Free migration services from other websites
Freedom of content delivery Generally liberal (e.g. nudity is allowed as long as flagged) Nearly zero limits (e.g. nudity including porn is allowed)

 

1. Raising Funds: A Big Funding Pot vs. Recurring Donations

Although Patreon and Podia are all both paid membership platforms, there are great differences in their funding models. Before you make you final choice, you should be thinking about the kind of business models you are opting for, which can be closely related to your frequency of posting and styles of creation.

Patreon: Subscription-based Platform and Ongoing Support

For Patreon, supporters, usually named Patrons, pledge a monthly fee to view the content you have created. As a creator, you can therefore generate a recurring, periodic supply of funds. Yet, the flip side is that rarely strangers are willing to pay any money for your Patreon project. Put it simply, the platform is more suitable for well-established creators opting for ongoing nature of support.

Podia: Monthly-subscription or One-off Transactions

The greatest difference between Podia and the other platforms is that it offers more flexibility. After setting up your membership, you can create content sign up for access to it in exchange for a monthly subscription. Alternatively, you can also sell online courses, digital downloads, and webinars on a one-off basis. Therefore, if you do have a one-time, well-designed project to be put onto the market, then Podia would be a better fit than Patreon.

2. Revenue sharing: 5-12% Cut off vs Flat Monthly Fee

For both platforms, it is completely free to start off an account. However, while Patreon takes up a certain percentage of monthly income creators earn, Podia requires a fixed monthly fee.

  Patreon Podia
Platform fee
  • Pick 1 out of the 3 plans; taking 5-12% of the monthly income creators earn
    • The cheapest plan has limited features.

 

 

  • Flat monthly fee to use the service
    • Podia charges no fees on the donations your contributors make.
    • $79/month to offer memberships
    • $39/month to sell digital content w/out memberships

 

 

Payment processing fees
  • Standard rate: 2.9% + USD 0.30 per successful payment over $3; or
  • Micropayment rate: 5% + USD0.10 per successful payment $3 or less

 

For more information, you can refer to the official website.

Charged to subscribers/buyers

 

 

For more information, you can refer to the official website.

3.     Payment Schedule and Methods: Regular Monthly Payout vs Customised Payout

  Patreon Podia
Payment schedule

Regular monthly payout

  • Monthly: You can manually withdraw your balance or have Patreon do an automatic withdrawal on the 5th of the month. 
  • Deposits typically arrive within 1-5 business days, depending on your payout method.

Depends on creators

Creators can click on “One-time or monthly payment plans” and set up the value and number of installments.

Payment methods
  • Stripe: Send money to your checking account
  • PayPal: Transfer the money to your bank. Alternatively, you can apply for a PayPal debit or credit card and use that to withdraw money at ATMs or make purchases online or at stores.
  • Payonner: Creators who live outside the United States: you can use Payoneer. It allows you to transfer money to your bank or use a Payoneer card to access your cash.


Learn more: Become a patron and pay subscription fees

  • Stripe
Learn more: Why doesn’t Podia support PayPal for payment plans or memberships?

4.     Highlighted tools and features: All-rounded tools vs simple website set-up

Patreon: Well-established Supporting Tools and Integration

Creators with a Patreon account can gain insight into and manage their campaign from a single dashboard. Data provided is linked to Google Analytics, so you can even see info on where your new patrons are coming from. The public-facing page has a place for your campaign description, reward tiers, private or public posts, and community interactions.

Example of Patreon dashboard

Discord integration is another highlighted feature of Patreon. Many creators discover that their fans/followers like gathering on a common platform to share ideas, hang out, and encourage one another. With Patreon's Discord integration, you can provide reward tiers access to a private Discord server. For example, at the $3/mo and higher level, you might offer access to all patrons.

Example of Discord on Patreon

Podia: Simple Website Builder, Email Marketing, Free Migration from Patreon website

Through Podia, you can sell a variety of online courses that fit your business and customers’ needs. 

Without having to pay extra or figure out how to "make it talk" to your digital product platform, Podia allows you access to an email marketing platform: Send mass emails, create automatic email funnels, and track the exact ROI of every email you send with sophisticated email analytics, which is somewhat similar to the dashboard hosted by Patreon and Kickstarter.

Example of Podia email marketing

One worth-noting point is that Podia also includes data migration at no additional cost. Your existing content will be moved from wherever it is now hosted by the company. All you need to do is sign up for an annual plan.

Learn more: Free migration from other platforms to Podia

5. Freedom of content delivery: Generally liberal vs nearly zero limit 

Unlike traditional content platforms like Youtube which contains stricter content guidelines and policy, creators usually enjoy more freedom on paid membership platforms. Yet, there are still restrictions in terms of content delivery on these platforms.

Patreon: Generally Liberal

For Patreon, creators basically enjoy a great extent of freedom.

Allowed

  • Nudity (creators need to flag themselves as 18+ if their creations may be considered inappropriate for people under 18 years of age)

Not allowed

  • Pornographic material or sexual services on Patreon, which we define as "real people engaging in sexual acts such as masturbation or sexual intercourse on camera."
  • Glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors)
  • Doxxing, which is sharing an individual’s private information or aggregating their public information for the purpose of intimidating them through harassment
  • Bullying or harassment 
  • Hate speech, such as calling for violence, exclusion, or segregation. This includes serious attacks on people based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex, gender, sexual orientation, age, disability or serious medical conditions.
  • Harmful and illegal activity
  • Creations that infringe on others' intellectual property rights
  • Politicians who cannot use Patreon to fund their run for office or to fund the political campaigns of others
  • Creator with a criminal past or harmful past, especially those who were caught in the act or convicted of making credible violent threats, committing violent crimes, child abuse, malicious doxing, coordinating nonviolent harm (such as fraud, money laundering, and gambling)
  • Dangerous Organizations: people with a dangerous criminal history or a known affiliation with violent or dangerous groups (including terrorist or cyber terrorist organizations, organized criminal groups, and violent hate groups)
  • Spam (posting repetitive comments or send unwanted private messages to other members of the community)

 

Learn more: https://www.patreon.com/policy/guidelines

Podia: Nearly Zero Restrictions

One of the selling points of Podia is that there are zero limits on content. Their policy is to allow basically all content on Podia, with a minimal set of restrictions necessary to keep their customers safe.

Allowed

  • Nudity (including nudity and porn)

Not allowed

  • Illegal content. You may not host or sell any content that is disallowed by the laws of the jurisdictions in which you operate or do business, or which promotes illegal activity.
  • Stolen content. You may not host or sell any content that infringes on the copyright or trademarks of others.
  • Content that exploits children. You may not host or sell any content that exploits or abuses children, including but not limited to images or depictions of child abuse or sexual abuse, or that presents children in a sexual manner.
  • Content that threatens or incites violence. You may not host or sell content that threatens or encourages acts of violence.
  • Doxing. You may not host or sell content that shares peoples’ private information without their consent.
    Fraud or phishing. You may not conceal your identity for the purposes of stealing from, extorting, or harming others.
  •  

Learn more: https://www.Podia.com/features/sell-online-courses

Key takeaways

  Patreon Podia
Pros
  • All-rounded supporting tools and features
  • Larger user base
  • No cut-off from earnings, only a fixed monthly fee
  • Relatively more freedom on content delivery
  • Favor both monthly subscription and one-time transaction 
Cons
  • 5-12% cut on overall donation
  • Relatively stricter on content delivery
  • Fixed monthly payment schedule, not favorable to one-time transaction
  • Relatively limited tools
  • Smaller user base

Ultimately, it sounds cliche but there are no clear winners. Each platform had their highlights that cater different groups of users. You should always bear in mind that these platforms are often used in conjunction with one another. For example, many Youtubers will stream on Twitch or use Patreon for exclusive content.

Patreon might be a viable option if you are already famous and/ or otherwise inaccessible creatives with fan bases who are willing to pay to fund your personal projects, or your content in which they are interested in. 

Nevertheless, Podia seems to me a good alternative to Patreon. The main selling point is Podia charges a flat monthly fee instead of cutting off the donations your supporters make. Therefore, if you are an established creator who draws a significant monthly income from selling your work, Podia may be more cost-effective. On the contrary, smaller creators looking for a more seller-friendly platform on which to start up their business, Podia's relatively high and fixed monthly cost might be a discouraging factor.

 

---

Ever thought of building your own website with Patreon features?

If you need your first 10 supporters, it's wise to get listed on big platforms like Patreon.

But if you already had a group of supporters or fans and would like to build your own website with Patreon features like charging subscription fee by tiers and publishing member-only content, you can consider using our product RakoSell as well.

RakoSell is a commission free tool that allows you to sell memberships by tiers and sell digital products in one-off basis, with identity tracking watermark feature to prevent viewers from leaking your content.

Start your free trial here now, no credit card required!